French Family History - A very interesting relative
One child with a Spanish lover, a jury trial for major theft, 3 more children with an unnamed father and a death bed marriage
The summary
Nadije Marie Gisèlle de Remellay born in Pest, Hungary to a Hungarian father Gustav Remellay and Russian Mother Therese Lehman
Her parents divorced and her mother moved to Paris
Nadije has five children on record between 1878 and 1884
Marie de la Conception 24 /04/1878 with her Spanish lover Raymond Marie Antoine de Manglano. Marie died age 4.
Raymond Antoine Michel 26/07/1879 with "father not named" (though the name seems to point at Manglano)
Eva Marie 29/03/1881 listed with "father not named"
Fernand Yves Remi 22/09/1883 with Jean Fernand Rogron
Marie Marguerite Theresa 25/04/1884 "father not named". Date seems too soon after Fernand as only 7 months!
The children appear to have been bought up in different households. It is possible there was some connection between Nadije and the households but it might be just an unofficial adoption.
Nadije is on trial for theft with her lover Manglano in 1882 and found not guilty
Nadije married Jean Fernand Rogron on his death bed in 1896 - he died four days later.
The Details
Nadije Marie Giselle de Remellay born in Pest, Hungary to a Hungarian father Gustav Remellay and Russian Mother Therese Lehman . See marriage record in attached PDF records file.
Gustav Remellay , her father, is listed in Wikipedia and the dates match.
Other sources says he married a Russian wife and they divorced. The wife moved to Paris.
He was a Hungarian journalist, revolutionary, spent time in jail and was an author on many historical books.
Therese Lehman , her mother, was born in Moscow, Russia and died in Neuilly sur Seine . See death record in attached PDF records file.
Nadije Marie Giselle de Remellay seems she swapped a Russian sounding middle name "Dowloff: for French names 'Marie Giselle" around 1880. Note the 'ff' was often used in France for Russian names instead of a letter 'v so it might originally be 'Dowlov'
Her first name is sometimes listed as Nadèje or Nadège in French records
Her middle name is often listed as Gisella instead of Gisèlle
Her last name is sometimes listed as Remeläy (one L and an Umluat on the final a)
Nadije's first child 24th April 1878 is listed in her birth record as Marie de la Conception de Manglano. The parents are named as Raymond Marie Antoine Tourssaint de Manglano and Nadèje Dowloff Remeläy. See birth record in attached PDF records file.
Nadije's 2nd child 1st April 1880 is listed in her birth record as Eva de Remellay. The parents are named as Giselle de Remeläy and father not named. See birth record in attached PDF records file.
How do we know the mother is the same person?
1, The newspaper reports of the trial of Nadije Remellay and Manglano show her name both to be
Nadège Remellay and Marie Gisèle Nadèje de Remellay. The reports also say she is Hungarian.
2. Her age on the date on her childrens births and her marriage relative to her birth year line up
3. Gisèle is also written as Gisella in many of the records.
4. Searches show no other 'Remellay' or similar spelling records - the name is unusual in France as it is Hungarian.
Nadije's 3nd child 17th January 1883 listed in his birth record as Raymond Antoine Michel. The parents are named as Gisella Marie Nadège Remellay and father not named. Fernand Rogron is listed as living in the same home (aged 4 years younger than her) and in 1896 she marries Jean Fernand Rogron (aged 4 years younger than her). See birth record in attached PDF records file.
Nadije's 4th child 25th April 1884 is listed in her birth record as Marie Marguerite THERESA Remellay. The parents are named as Nadèje Marie Giselle Remeläy and father not named. Jean Jaques Rogron is listed as living in the same home. See birth record in attached PDF records file.
The Trial
Several newpapers report on the trial of five people for stealing and then selling securities.
The accused include Martinez Manglano and Nadège de Remellay but they are also named as Ramond-Garcias-Manglano, known under the name of Martinez and Miss Marie Gisèle Nadėje de Remellay, also known as Garcia de Romilly, mistress de Martinez.
A section of one report is below: (very poorly translated) . See the full original reports in the attached PDF records file..
Nadège de Remellay above all, a very pretty, very cute person, with a naughty little Hungarian accent, confirms that she did not know the provenance of the titles, which she continued to negotiate. Her letters to her lover Manglano justify her. In one of her epistles dated September 10, 1880 and addressed to London, she told him in a touching way.
“As for you, come back penniless, we have lived before, we will continue after; but if you stay with these people, you are their accomplice ... You always lie ... "
NADĖGE. Then a few days later, on September 26, she also wrote: " What have you done ? What people do you do business with? They are thieves. The securities you made me sell are stolen. I am crazy. So send an explanation. “It is better to be poor and lead our sad life. Our poor child! Come back immediately. Leave them ! It's horrible ! "
NADÈGE. These are certainly very fine
sentiments expressed, but this magnanimous contempt for poverty should not be
taken too seriously.
Mile Nadėje de Remellay is a very well-known demi-mondaine at Bignon, where she had very spiritual companions, whom she claims to be in front of the jury: very appreciated at the Café Anglais and elsewhere ... so she would not have died of hunger for if little. Manglano, alleged correspondent of a mass of newspapers which are perhaps printed beyond the Pyrenees, Manglano the Spaniard, lover of this Hungarian from Pesth, claims as naturally that he wanted to render service to a friend and compatriot in ridding him of the titles of which he believed him to be the legitimate possessor.
Remellay family tree
Note that Raymond de Manglano is only certainly the father of Marie de la Conception. Raymond de Manglano might be the father of the other three children.
The Remellay Records can be studied here including full French text from the trial reports
Eva Marie de Remellay married Rene Brochot. Rene Brochot had two wives. He married Eva de Remellay after his first wife Antionette Blanche died.
A portion of the Brochot family tree
Eva de Remellay may have grown up with Rene Brochot’s aunt Francoise who was also married twice. Antionette Blanche died at aunt Francoise Brochot’s home. Eva de Remellay is on Antoine's death certificate as a witness though by then she was living in Paris. It is possible that Eva was raised by a Brochot aunt and that is how she knew Rene Brochot and married him after Antionette died.
Eva was sent to boarding school so the family that raised her had some wealth..
Rene and Eva had one daughter "Renée"
The Brochot Records can be studied here
